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Well the time has finally come when I can build a barn on my property. I am looking at a 40'x60' building with 14' ceiling and a 16'x40' enclosed shop area within the main building. I have thought of skylights and floor drains along with a seperate electric service and a storage area above the enclosed shop for boxes and whatever. This will probably be a once in a lifetime event for me and I would like to do it right. I plan on spending time there when I retire in a few years (right after it is paid for). I sure would appreciate any advice from those with experience with such things. Thanks to you all, Cutter.
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All good ideas. What do you mean by a double door? I am installing a 12x12 over head in the main part of the building and a nine by seven or possibly larger for the shop area. I am probably going to put an additional 12x12 slider on the end of the storage area as well. Also, I like the idea of the sub-feed to the house. Currently my generator is in my attached garage (noisy). Thanks.
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These ideas are great. Thanks a million to you all. I was unaware the drains would be illegal. There must be a method to install them that will pass code. Possibly an oil trap or something, I will check with local zoning. My water will not be installed until the town runs it down my road next year (hopefully). In the mean time, I plan on installing some empty conduit for future use as well as a capped 1" h2o line before the cement is poured. I am curious about the floor heat. Is there someplace I can go to see plans as to how much and what type of plastic is needed as well as a diagram for the installation of the water tank heater?
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New York, and I have seen them around here. I had completely forgotten about them. I currently have two estimates on the way...and will try Morton as well. I love all the under the floor ideas I have read here. This forum is priceless.
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Some good ideas Murf. I like the bathroom thought but will have to settle for just the plumbing for now, the building is too far from the house to connect to my septic system. I MAY sell my current house in time and build a smaller one back near where the barn will be, some 300 feet or so to the rear. Or maybe not. Moving the building closer is something I have to talk to the pro's about, I picked the highest point but could possibly have some dozer work done to move part of the hill (and then watch the cement floor crack as the fill settles). We have too much snow for me to be walking around trying to guess elevations, so that will be a call made in the future.
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I will be in touch with zoning tommorrow re: the holding tank. Great idea. The Morton link lets you play with the colours. Having too much fun.
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Thank you RCH. I am saving all these postings until I get a chance to sort through them. Checked on the floor drains, OK in my area. The holding tank is OK too, as long as it is "silent".
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Funny you should mention Amish. They no longer reside close enough to utililize, however one of my estimates is coming from the Martin Builders, a Mennonite family. They have done buildings for several folks I know and are excellent carpenters as well. I have settled upon a dividing wall and ceiling in the shop area and a bathroom as well. One thing I missed that was just mentioned is the burried air lines. I do like the idea of backfeeding the electric for emergencies as well. The building will most likely be drawing it's power from a different road (read circuit) than my house, which may sometimes solve the outage problem there without the use my generator. It seems our circuit goes down frequently. The reason I was going to install a 12x14 slider on the back side close to the end is to use it for entering and depositing my 10'x30' used fishing boat I plan on buying when I retire. It will have to be placed on blocks for winter storage and there will be very little wiggle room when the marina brings it up on their trailer. It will go straight in and off, which would block the large overhead door for further axcess. The ones I have looked at in my price range are around 10-15 years old and in need of a LOT of work. Being inside would be a Godsend. And that lift idea is great. Maybe I need to add 15 more feet of barn!!!!
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Well now the boss says build it as big as I can. She has visions of storage space dancing in her head. I don't see it turning into a kennel (my wife doesn't have the time for any animals other than me), but knowing women as I do, some $$ now may save a battle later. I just started drawing the plans for conduit etc. under the cement floor. This will be so much easier and better thanks to the ideas from everyone. I have contacted an individual re: purchasing the materials for the floor heat for the shop and forced air possibly for the infrequent times I would heat the machine storage area. Now I sit back and wait for the first estimate to come in.
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Thanks for the input Turfman. I had thought of the waste oil heater however I don't have enough oil to make it worthwhile. I am going as big as I can afford now. One drawback for me is that I will have to fill extensively for every additional foot of length. Just by eyeballing the sight, it appears to drop at least two feet in fourty. I am wondering if I should fill after the construction to avoid having to purchase so much gravel. The flatter ground is too far from the house to build there. Any ideas would be helpful. I think the gravel is better than the free ditching fill the town gives away, it will help keep the building dry.
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I am going to try the floor heat in the shop and forced air propane for the rare times I'll be heating the storage area. I plan on leaving it set just above freezing. The stoves won't pass code around here. I just took one out of my 24x32 garage due to the insurance conflicts. Putting propane in that as well.
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Thanks for the input Aaron. I am seriously considering Morton at this time. I was impressed by the video they sent me as well. My only question at this point is whether to go 12' or 14' ceiling heigth.
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I didn't realize that was the case with those trusses. Nice to know, I wonder how much extra they are? I'm still waiting for a price from everyone I have talked to . Must be the economy is still roaring.
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Sounds impressive Peters! I would like to see some pictures. My shell is done and the doors are on, but this one you are building sounds interesting.
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Very nice Tim. I did take a look and I am sure it will look fantastic with the New England setting it will reside in!
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Dennis, I am trying to post a reply. Seem to be having problems.
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Never mind Dennis, works fine now. My mistake, sorry.
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Well Farmhouse, you are correct, I am in upstate NY. The shower idea is something I have kicked around and what I plan on doing is installing one on the back of the house. I have a deck there just abaft of my inground pool. After a hard day's work, I will strip off the dirty clothes and use the hose to wash before I jump in. That works fine if the sun is out and has heated the 150' coil, nice and warm until it is used up. I can easily run the shower from the laundry room to the deck and build an attractive wood enclosure. The deck is 6" off the ground so I don't even need to install a drain, it will run between the slats, kind of how my old cottage was built in the 40's for the grey water. The barn pictures are on this site if you are interested.
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That is a great camp idea Tom. I am leaning towards a large shower stall sized area with a seat and shower head. This will serve as a changing room for pool guests that don't want to go in the house as well as a way for me to rinse off before jumping in. I plan on building it when I remodel the deck, hopefully next year but who knows. I want it to look attractive and to enhance the pool/deck area when completed.
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